As uncomfortable and unpleasant as it is. Countries and cultures such as exist in much of the world cannot and do not benefit from secular democracy. But require strong men to govern and rule them, or else descend into sectarian and ethnic chaos and genocide which is then exported to the rest of the world, specifically the "secular, rational, civilised and enlightened" West, where they do incalculable harm and destruction on all levels turning our lands into a mirror of the Hell-holes that they "escaped" and "fled" from. Even though some of these people helped to create these selfsame Hell-holes and are seeking to repeat the process here for cultural, ethnic and ideological reasons, and we are letting them also for ideological reasons. They can no longer legitimate be considered victims, but the selfsame things that is claimed that we in the West are, colonisers, oppressors, etc. The "Victims" eventually become the perpetrators of the abuse and horrors that they have suffered. What then happens when the native people's of the West, eventually turn on their oppressors and colonisers? A question that few if any are asking or imagining what this may look like and the consequences.
better than the regime in power now. It doesn't bear thinking of the little girls of 9yrs being raped by a adult male, because this is what it amounts to, and if anyone disagrees then they are not civilised.
Saddam Hussain was a murderous Dictator; he murdered every male member of some families, expelled those of Persian origin from the the country, drained the land of the marsh Arabs and Arabised Turkish Cities. State control was absolute, and everyone was spying on everyone else out of fear. Is the present Regime worse? That's a moot point.
No, just that one can’t compare. Arabs flourished under Saddam, whether Christian or otherwise, provided they joined the Ba’ath Party: the Arab National Socialist Party. The majority Shi’ites were persecuted, as were non-Arabs and the Jews, of course. Iraq was a secular country under Saddam, the same as Syria under the Assads, with Islam being put on the back-burner in the rush to Westernise. Look at Attatürk and the Shah of Iran too.That has been the battle in many parts of the Middle East, though, for decades: Secularism vs Islam, with both sides using dubious methods to suppress the other. Interestingly, the whole idea of Arab Nationalism was promoted by such Christians as Farah Antoun at the beginning of the 20th Century, I believe; it was an anathema to Arabs before that.
As uncomfortable and unpleasant as it is. Countries and cultures such as exist in much of the world cannot and do not benefit from secular democracy. But require strong men to govern and rule them, or else descend into sectarian and ethnic chaos and genocide which is then exported to the rest of the world, specifically the "secular, rational, civilised and enlightened" West, where they do incalculable harm and destruction on all levels turning our lands into a mirror of the Hell-holes that they "escaped" and "fled" from. Even though some of these people helped to create these selfsame Hell-holes and are seeking to repeat the process here for cultural, ethnic and ideological reasons, and we are letting them also for ideological reasons. They can no longer legitimate be considered victims, but the selfsame things that is claimed that we in the West are, colonisers, oppressors, etc. The "Victims" eventually become the perpetrators of the abuse and horrors that they have suffered. What then happens when the native people's of the West, eventually turn on their oppressors and colonisers? A question that few if any are asking or imagining what this may look like and the consequences.
No,..
better than the regime in power now. It doesn't bear thinking of the little girls of 9yrs being raped by a adult male, because this is what it amounts to, and if anyone disagrees then they are not civilised.
The plight of children in these hell holes is awful, I agree
Hi "Bob" - you have demonstrated that you cannot read, that you are a little troll. No more polluting MY Substack.
Saddam Hussain was a murderous Dictator; he murdered every male member of some families, expelled those of Persian origin from the the country, drained the land of the marsh Arabs and Arabised Turkish Cities. State control was absolute, and everyone was spying on everyone else out of fear. Is the present Regime worse? That's a moot point.
I said he was bad. A monster yes. But Christians flourished and marriage to 9 year olds wasn’t a thing. Are you telling me those are moot points?
No, just that one can’t compare. Arabs flourished under Saddam, whether Christian or otherwise, provided they joined the Ba’ath Party: the Arab National Socialist Party. The majority Shi’ites were persecuted, as were non-Arabs and the Jews, of course. Iraq was a secular country under Saddam, the same as Syria under the Assads, with Islam being put on the back-burner in the rush to Westernise. Look at Attatürk and the Shah of Iran too.That has been the battle in many parts of the Middle East, though, for decades: Secularism vs Islam, with both sides using dubious methods to suppress the other. Interestingly, the whole idea of Arab Nationalism was promoted by such Christians as Farah Antoun at the beginning of the 20th Century, I believe; it was an anathema to Arabs before that.
He was handing around somewhere a few years ago!