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Phil Beale's avatar

There is no good islam, It is the only religion based on a murderer and a paedophile. Mohammed killed thousands, and married a 7 year old. Compare that with Buddha Confucius or Jesus

Pamela Watson's avatar

The point is that most of the things we get outraged about are happening illegally. The idea that "being nice" over-rides the law needs to stop.

* Arriving without a passport and/or visa IS ALREADY ILLEGAL.

* Overstaying your visa IS ALREADY ILLEGAL.

* Accessing benefits and housing and the NHS without paying as a foreigner IS ALREADY ILLEGAL.

* If you are a foreigner and you break the law and are sentenced to a year or more you will be deported. THAT IS ALREADY THE LAW.

But bleeding heart politicians and judges and civil servants ARE NOT APPLYING THE LAW. Just applying the existing law would make a whole lot of difference before we even look at making any changes. But the one ludicrous thing that DOES need to change is why oh why was I allowed to vote for 18 years as a foreigner? I did because I come from a country where voting is compulsory. I could not imagine NOT voting. But if I couldn't it would have made me become British MUCH sooner.

NothingButNet's avatar

👍Excellent idea, David, but the chance of implementation appears to be near zero. The fundamental problem is that people refuse to understand Islam. It is not simply a religion, rather it is a system of governance shrouded by a thin veil of religion.

That system of governance dictates the subordination of all women and any non Muslim men to the “superior” Muslim men. Any and all non believers are slowly driven out of the country as Muslim men take over the country. It happens slowly, over a couple generations, so the people of the host countries don’t notice until it’s too late. Just look at all the countries in the Middle East. Islam is not compatible with any other system of governance in the world. It is a cancer ♋️ and must be eliminated.

Pallavi Dawson's avatar

There may be a “good Islam” out there but I see what has been imported here and what holds power here. I see the churches replaced by mosques and the land becoming slaughter grounds. So I don’t care if there is a good and moderate Islam because the Islam here is causing problems.

Hellish 2050's avatar

I am not convinced there is any good Islam. Ahmadi is slightly less bad, because they do not believe in abrogation of Koran verses.

Here is a very good article:

Informative article: I read the entire Quran, all the Hadiths, and the Sira. Here is what I found.

Well worth reading

https://hellish2050.substack.com/p/informative-article-i-read-the-entire

Zuriel's avatar

And what about the Islamic networks that are here and operating covertly and overtly throughout not just the areas they inhabit, but the institutions and organisations where they are present? They're not going to simply lie down and let us do anything that negatively impacts on them in anyway. They are parasitic in nature, parasites don't stop killing their hosts because the hosts ask them too. The UK police, army, and judiciary, along with numerous NGOs and institutions are infested and have been subverted in their favour and are actively hostile to the native population of the British Isles, we are living in an anarcho tyranny in all but name. The same is true of elsewhere throughout the West.

Mike H's avatar

In a word, no😜

oh só mitra's avatar

What British values might those be??

Kevin rowlands's avatar

Should not come here unless you want to embrace our culture

Mfyffe's avatar

But, but, but our culture says to be nice and be charitable, doesn't it? We get enough foreigners telling us how un-British we are when we object.

Stephen James Whelbourne's avatar

It is not.

Britain, and Western society in general, has imported the social cancer of Medievalism.

We will regress 2000 years if it isn't reversed

No ~ that's NOT ‘Racist’ ~ it's a basic fact.

George's avatar

I like all the steps.

One other step that is desperately needed is to bolster the ports, airports and the laws to stop smuggled people getting here - not just boats, from lorry’s, airliners, merchant ships, cars coming through the tunnels.

Ships captains need to be arrested, airlines must have copies of passenger passports, car drivers must unambiguously receive prison sentences for smuggling migrants.

Police at all entry points, cages and cctv day / night.

Charities need to have their employees locked up for assisting the smuggling of migrants.

Instant imprisonment for the smugglers and smuggled - enshrined in law.

N.S.G.'s avatar

1.What are British values? Is it colonizing and killing half of Planet? Bombing brown Muslims in M.East and stealing their resources?! Seriously what are in fact "British values"? While I was living in Sri Lanka( Colombo) I sow those "British" values painted on the wall in one restorant! I sow painting describing horrors of British colonization done to native brown Buddhist in Sri Lanka! I am not guilty because I am white and look British, but almost every second Sri Lankan ask me if: I am British God forbid?! When I say No, I can see relief in their faces and warm welcome...I was living everywhere from Africa to Asia but I never experienced any racism because I was white and look British except there... I don't blame them, later mine friends from Sri Lanka explained me horrors of "British values" & colonization of their lands that was printed deep in their memories and why they don't like white people from- Not So Great Britain! 2. If you don't like cheep labore Muslims migrants: first stop Bombing brown Muslims countries and stealing their resources, second stop recruiting young uneducated Muslims and turn them in to extremist( so you can profit from your neo-colonial wars),third and last stop racism in all levels of your very 'white' society!

David Vance's avatar

Britain is imperfect as is British history, but we did more good than bad and that is more than can be said for some of those other countries you mention. I am proud to be British and proud to be White. Got it?

N.S.G.'s avatar

Britain is imperefect, is this your answer for your far right racist colonial brainwashed mind with and agenda?! Are you serious?! Why didn't you answer any of mine question?! 🤔🤨

David Vance's avatar

You misunderstand. I’m not here to answer anything you ask.

Stephen James Whelbourne's avatar

Agreed David.

Apparently we're the only race that isn't allowed to be proud, and isn't protected.

Stephen James Whelbourne's avatar

You're ignorant of reality. Read up.

Kury Akin's avatar

Far too common sense and logical an approach for the UK of DEI to adopt

Hellish 2050's avatar

About 6 years ago Avi Yemini asked Nigel Farage whether Islam itself is compatible with Western values.

Farage would not directly reply but used whataboutery to duck the question. Shameful.

Farage also said it is immoral to oppose Islam!

Watch the short video here:

https://hellish2050.substack.com/p/nigel-farage-stated-that-it-is-immoral

David Vance's avatar

Yeah I do remember that. He is squeamish on the issue.

Mfyffe's avatar

He would be. He got rather a lot of money from Reform's co-owner.

Get out of the way's avatar

On the basis that British indigenous values are largely Christian or animist in nature and based on common law, the answer nope.