Where is PETA and all the other groups monitoring and protecting humane treatment of animals ? Where are they? Where is the force of our law? Occupation and Subjugation is a process that moves stepwise. Every step away from the standards we have worked so hard to bring to our modern society are now at risk. And we shall know the dark ages. Halal. If we don’t think this is a genocide on our animals in basements and residences and shops everywhere;Then we need to question what do we expect as a general outcome. And prepare for the worst.
You cannot be serious asking WHY these people are able to carry out these medieval practices !!! What are you Deaf Dumb and Blind !!! They have the FULL support of Government Police and the Establishment they are taking over your country and the West.
People like you will let it happen !!!
Where are all the Vegans Veggie Hunt Sabs and the People who broke into the Laboratories our climbed bloody trees !! Up Labour or Liberals assholes stoned on weed or mushrooms.
You have to Fight to stop these Animals butchering these live animals 🥷🏿🥷🏿🥷🏿
Councils have been timid in enforcing food hygiene including meat inspection for decades for fear of being declared discriminatory against a certain group of people.
I agree entirely. This has become a conflict of laws and needs an enlightened government to fix it. The argument for total religious freedom was intended for the British who were all Christians of some kind. Quakers and Puritans were no longer discriminated against. Then along came Islam, a totally alien and horrific culture with unspeakable savagery at its heart and asks us to tolerate the intolerable.
The question also arises about kosher meat. I don’t know if it is exactly the same but I would even then put animal welfare first. I agree we must ban the killing, importing and sale of this meat. Those who don’t like it must LEAVE. (I also support the serving of pork in prisons but we digress!).
This is an Islamic practice which upsets me the most. I can't get past it. People are ignorant about what halal slaughter entails and they don't want to hear me explaining it. About six years ago I was talking about it in the pub and said "a bloke in a dress recites the Islamic prayer whilst the animal is upside down, having its throat slit". One retort was "that's their national dress!". Everyone turned their back on me. God, those people were pathetic.
I've signed countless petitions but nothing comes of them.
And yes, I don't like kosher slaughter either but that us not forced on us in the same way.
And it doesn't stop there. There's the racket of the HFA certification on products such as bread, which Warburtons pay a fee for. Makes millions for Islamic causes.
I agree - it would also have the effect of disincentivizing those from certain parts of the world from coming here in the first place which would be an added bonus!
If we didn’t provide halal in prisons surely that would be a deterrant to commit crime. Why should we? I mean, if I was in prison in , say, Malaysia I wouldn’t expect fish & chips on a friday..
The overwhelming majority of 'halal' meat in the West is not actually halal or otherwise lawful per Biblical or Quranic guidelines as the animals are indeed stunned pre-slaughter (electric bath and captive-bolt pistol being the most common). Every major halal certification industry in the West certifies stun-slaughter meat as 'halal'. Really, the only difference between 'halal' meat and regular, non-halal meat is the presence of a crescent symbol or 'M' on the outer packaging. And *perhaps* some Pakistani fellow uttered 'In the name of God' before doing the act. Otherwise, they're identical.
In both Australia and New Zealand, the largest producers and exporters of halal meat, non-stun slaughtering is banned. So all the 'halal' lamb and goat that dominates the U.S. and U.K. halal meat market does in fact originate from stunned animals.
There's a growing debate in the Islamic 'halal' certification industry and in mosques across the West on whether stun-slaughter meat is halal. Currently, the consensus is in the affirmative. I won't get into that debate here, except to say that the only reliably non-stun slaughtered meat is Jewish shechita, or kosher slaughter. So, a lot of folks - Muslims & Jews & others - seeking to abide strictly to Biblical-Quranic dietary laws must visit their local kosher butcher. Or they self-slaughter at a local farm.
They banned the cruel fox hunting , they protest at horse and greyhound racing , but they will happily see this cruel torture to innocent animals , I refuse to eat halal meat , and it all comes from a make believe book that was invented 100s of years after the bible , disgusting politicians..
Inflicting suffering on animals whatever the reason is barbaric and should be treated as a criminal offence. I was in Tunisia years ago just before start of Ramadan and every house had a sheep tied up outside ready for ritual slaughter. France allows mobile slaughter wagons during Ramadan-
Where is PETA and all the other groups monitoring and protecting humane treatment of animals ? Where are they? Where is the force of our law? Occupation and Subjugation is a process that moves stepwise. Every step away from the standards we have worked so hard to bring to our modern society are now at risk. And we shall know the dark ages. Halal. If we don’t think this is a genocide on our animals in basements and residences and shops everywhere;Then we need to question what do we expect as a general outcome. And prepare for the worst.
You cannot be serious asking WHY these people are able to carry out these medieval practices !!! What are you Deaf Dumb and Blind !!! They have the FULL support of Government Police and the Establishment they are taking over your country and the West.
People like you will let it happen !!!
Where are all the Vegans Veggie Hunt Sabs and the People who broke into the Laboratories our climbed bloody trees !! Up Labour or Liberals assholes stoned on weed or mushrooms.
You have to Fight to stop these Animals butchering these live animals 🥷🏿🥷🏿🥷🏿
Councils have been timid in enforcing food hygiene including meat inspection for decades for fear of being declared discriminatory against a certain group of people.
I agree entirely. This has become a conflict of laws and needs an enlightened government to fix it. The argument for total religious freedom was intended for the British who were all Christians of some kind. Quakers and Puritans were no longer discriminated against. Then along came Islam, a totally alien and horrific culture with unspeakable savagery at its heart and asks us to tolerate the intolerable.
The question also arises about kosher meat. I don’t know if it is exactly the same but I would even then put animal welfare first. I agree we must ban the killing, importing and sale of this meat. Those who don’t like it must LEAVE. (I also support the serving of pork in prisons but we digress!).
Kosher Slaughter is totally different than Halal. The Shochet knows what he’s doing and it’s done quickly.
80%+ halal meat comes from animals that were stunned and therefore felt no pain. Kosher disallows stunning.
If you're concerned with animal rights, I suggest veganism.
This is an Islamic practice which upsets me the most. I can't get past it. People are ignorant about what halal slaughter entails and they don't want to hear me explaining it. About six years ago I was talking about it in the pub and said "a bloke in a dress recites the Islamic prayer whilst the animal is upside down, having its throat slit". One retort was "that's their national dress!". Everyone turned their back on me. God, those people were pathetic.
I've signed countless petitions but nothing comes of them.
And yes, I don't like kosher slaughter either but that us not forced on us in the same way.
And it doesn't stop there. There's the racket of the HFA certification on products such as bread, which Warburtons pay a fee for. Makes millions for Islamic causes.
I agree - it would also have the effect of disincentivizing those from certain parts of the world from coming here in the first place which would be an added bonus!
If we didn’t provide halal in prisons surely that would be a deterrant to commit crime. Why should we? I mean, if I was in prison in , say, Malaysia I wouldn’t expect fish & chips on a friday..
That’s a great idea!
Do we provide for other religions I wonder, or just one..
The thing is, muslims can eat non halal meat, they just say a prayer before eating it. They just like to exert their dominance.
Exactly
The overwhelming majority of 'halal' meat in the West is not actually halal or otherwise lawful per Biblical or Quranic guidelines as the animals are indeed stunned pre-slaughter (electric bath and captive-bolt pistol being the most common). Every major halal certification industry in the West certifies stun-slaughter meat as 'halal'. Really, the only difference between 'halal' meat and regular, non-halal meat is the presence of a crescent symbol or 'M' on the outer packaging. And *perhaps* some Pakistani fellow uttered 'In the name of God' before doing the act. Otherwise, they're identical.
In both Australia and New Zealand, the largest producers and exporters of halal meat, non-stun slaughtering is banned. So all the 'halal' lamb and goat that dominates the U.S. and U.K. halal meat market does in fact originate from stunned animals.
There's a growing debate in the Islamic 'halal' certification industry and in mosques across the West on whether stun-slaughter meat is halal. Currently, the consensus is in the affirmative. I won't get into that debate here, except to say that the only reliably non-stun slaughtered meat is Jewish shechita, or kosher slaughter. So, a lot of folks - Muslims & Jews & others - seeking to abide strictly to Biblical-Quranic dietary laws must visit their local kosher butcher. Or they self-slaughter at a local farm.
Sadly, it just shows how very captured the UK government is by all things Muslim.
Like sharia courts, this practice should never have been adopted.
Labour aren't going to change this because they are completely cowardly in the face of extremism.
As well as utterly stupid - nearly missed that bit.
Ban the eaters of halal stuff too.
Ban Muslims. They are anti western murderers
What is it about Muslims that everything about them is brutal?
Their religion is fill with demands that "must" be completed exactly.
Including sharia law, which is definitely not something I wish to live under!
They banned the cruel fox hunting , they protest at horse and greyhound racing , but they will happily see this cruel torture to innocent animals , I refuse to eat halal meat , and it all comes from a make believe book that was invented 100s of years after the bible , disgusting politicians..
If we ban halal slaughter we need to ban kosher slaughter too. In the meantime we MUST have definitive labelling on ALL meat and products for sale.
Great idea very simple and it is for animal rights
Inflicting suffering on animals whatever the reason is barbaric and should be treated as a criminal offence. I was in Tunisia years ago just before start of Ramadan and every house had a sheep tied up outside ready for ritual slaughter. France allows mobile slaughter wagons during Ramadan-
shocking.
Get on with it asap and ban the Burka too. Lets make it impossible for them to remain.
Absolutely feed the garbage can Halal ❗️