You tell me an alternative Party which people will vote for? Reform said their aim was to replace the Tories. Under this FPTP system, this is what has to happen, otherwise it is all pointless. Haven't you seen that the LibDems have just held onto their Devon seat, probably because the Conservative vote was split between Tories and Reform. It's about winning Pariamentary Seats all over the country. Do you think UKIP or the Heritage Party etc will get anywhere? We had a chance to change the voting system to a more Proportional one, but people opted to keep the one we have. I admit that the Alternative Vote wasn't a great option, but it would have been a step away from the system we have now.
Reform have never talked about deportations, only about returning the boats. They are not radical in a way some people might wish; perhaps that's why they stand a chance electorally. People will have to vote for another Party, if they think them too soft, but they will stand even less of a chance. This is not USA, and Reform is not one of the main Parties. Farage is prioritising replacing the Tories, which is vital. Otherwise, the vote gets split. What is your practical solution?
Yes, it looks like Nigel has met his match in Lowe - Nigel has decades of pushing potential rivals under the bus - looks like he has finally been caught out this time. I am hoping for a new party with Lowe and Habib.
Democracy in Europe is dead, unless your brain dead or brainwashed it's glaringly obvious that we are being governed right across Europe by a tyrannical class of anti-democratic tyrants who are controlled by a Globalist elite, Farage is no fool so he must see this as clearly as we all do yet he never tackles the REAL issues and particularly the No 1 issue, accelerating demographic destruction of indigenous European people's and their culture, the rapid Islamification of the UK is being implemented right in front of our faces yet Farage and his pretend Reform party say nothing, it is time for a new alternative under the leadership of Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe, Farage-Garbage.
Let’s all face it, Nigel as a political force for the ethnic British people has been successfully neutralised by his own greed.
Greed for money and power is an Achilles’ Heel. Starmer had it and Lord Ali took him out. Nigel is the same and Mohammed Ziauddin Yusuf has taken him out. Moneyed Muslims are the first we should be getting rid of. They’ve even taken out the King with their generous donations to his personal causes. We’re talking big money and religious fundamentalism is only part of the same goal to create a Caliphate in Britain. The police and the judiciary have been neutralised by the Marxist, corrupted education system over decades of work.
So what do we do? We find DEDICATED leaders of conviction who won’t change their minds and abandon us like Starmer and Farage. I see Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib as a strong team. No one’s perfect but they are good. Excellent in fact. We need to wrestle Reform from the stranglehold of its rotten foundation. Reform 2025 has Zia and Nigel as its two directors. This has to change and FAST. I have no doubt that the money behind it is Muslim money and money never comes without ties. The only people who can do this now are the Reform membership. They mustn’t resign. They must fight back! WE must fight to get OUR party back!
We all need to unite with the other parties behind a reinstated Lowe and Habib et al. with pledges made public about the aims, so that we all know where we are going and with whom. Only this way can we counter the threat of the Muslim party, which already has 4 MPs. No one mentions this much but it is a very, very significant indicator of what is to come. We need to get organised and be strong and faithful to the cause and to one another.
Yes I read about these things and heard him say some. I had become suspicious about what Reform was really about. Tice dismissing 'that lot' when referring to people sympathetic to Tommy Robinson while his partner Oakeshot off to Dubai to pay less private school fees. She seems quite selfish and nasty about Lowe. Mr Lowe being reported to Police by Mr Yusuf and branded senile! Nigel and Lee being very dismissive of Rupert and suddenly you don't really want to be part of it all anymore. It is demoralizing and really hit me that I invested in something that is just another branch of the uniparty and probably with less morals. The balloon has burst and it was just full of hot air.
The proof of the pudding is in eating: one has to get elected first. Yes, he doesn't want to sound too extreme. Whether you believe he has really softened his approach or is being pragmatic is up to you. If Reform doesn't replace the Tories, it is pointless anyway. There is no other way, electorally speaking.
Reform have always said that leaving the ECHR is a priority and said in the beginning that the only thing they could do legally was turn back the boats, when they entered British waters. So, why did people join Reform, if they didn't agree with that stance? Anyway, without the support of all conservative-minded people, no alternative Party will get elected, so what's the point?
No, that's wrong - Nigel has definitely been softening his stance. The latest is he now just wants to hold a referendum on leaving the ECHR, he said that in parliament! That means the whole of his 5 years if he does get in would be taken up with another referendum and NOTHING will get done about the boats yet again for a decade or more, if ever. We need someone who is going to take action on Day 1. Nigel is not the man.
He is a Pied Piper, leading the flock into a bind alley.
You tell me an alternative Party which people will vote for? Reform said their aim was to replace the Tories. Under this FPTP system, this is what has to happen, otherwise it is all pointless. Haven't you seen that the LibDems have just held onto their Devon seat, probably because the Conservative vote was split between Tories and Reform. It's about winning Pariamentary Seats all over the country. Do you think UKIP or the Heritage Party etc will get anywhere? We had a chance to change the voting system to a more Proportional one, but people opted to keep the one we have. I admit that the Alternative Vote wasn't a great option, but it would have been a step away from the system we have now.
We don't know that. What's the alternative: the Tories🤷
Reform have never talked about deportations, only about returning the boats. They are not radical in a way some people might wish; perhaps that's why they stand a chance electorally. People will have to vote for another Party, if they think them too soft, but they will stand even less of a chance. This is not USA, and Reform is not one of the main Parties. Farage is prioritising replacing the Tories, which is vital. Otherwise, the vote gets split. What is your practical solution?
Yes, it looks like Nigel has met his match in Lowe - Nigel has decades of pushing potential rivals under the bus - looks like he has finally been caught out this time. I am hoping for a new party with Lowe and Habib.
Democracy in Europe is dead, unless your brain dead or brainwashed it's glaringly obvious that we are being governed right across Europe by a tyrannical class of anti-democratic tyrants who are controlled by a Globalist elite, Farage is no fool so he must see this as clearly as we all do yet he never tackles the REAL issues and particularly the No 1 issue, accelerating demographic destruction of indigenous European people's and their culture, the rapid Islamification of the UK is being implemented right in front of our faces yet Farage and his pretend Reform party say nothing, it is time for a new alternative under the leadership of Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe, Farage-Garbage.
Nigel says.. But we've seen what Nigel does..
Let’s all face it, Nigel as a political force for the ethnic British people has been successfully neutralised by his own greed.
Greed for money and power is an Achilles’ Heel. Starmer had it and Lord Ali took him out. Nigel is the same and Mohammed Ziauddin Yusuf has taken him out. Moneyed Muslims are the first we should be getting rid of. They’ve even taken out the King with their generous donations to his personal causes. We’re talking big money and religious fundamentalism is only part of the same goal to create a Caliphate in Britain. The police and the judiciary have been neutralised by the Marxist, corrupted education system over decades of work.
So what do we do? We find DEDICATED leaders of conviction who won’t change their minds and abandon us like Starmer and Farage. I see Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib as a strong team. No one’s perfect but they are good. Excellent in fact. We need to wrestle Reform from the stranglehold of its rotten foundation. Reform 2025 has Zia and Nigel as its two directors. This has to change and FAST. I have no doubt that the money behind it is Muslim money and money never comes without ties. The only people who can do this now are the Reform membership. They mustn’t resign. They must fight back! WE must fight to get OUR party back!
We all need to unite with the other parties behind a reinstated Lowe and Habib et al. with pledges made public about the aims, so that we all know where we are going and with whom. Only this way can we counter the threat of the Muslim party, which already has 4 MPs. No one mentions this much but it is a very, very significant indicator of what is to come. We need to get organised and be strong and faithful to the cause and to one another.
Yes I read about these things and heard him say some. I had become suspicious about what Reform was really about. Tice dismissing 'that lot' when referring to people sympathetic to Tommy Robinson while his partner Oakeshot off to Dubai to pay less private school fees. She seems quite selfish and nasty about Lowe. Mr Lowe being reported to Police by Mr Yusuf and branded senile! Nigel and Lee being very dismissive of Rupert and suddenly you don't really want to be part of it all anymore. It is demoralizing and really hit me that I invested in something that is just another branch of the uniparty and probably with less morals. The balloon has burst and it was just full of hot air.
I've got that 'Making plans for Nigel' song stuck in my head now lol.
Love that song!
‘Fraid you are right…….
…….has Farage been bought off?
The proof of the pudding is in eating: one has to get elected first. Yes, he doesn't want to sound too extreme. Whether you believe he has really softened his approach or is being pragmatic is up to you. If Reform doesn't replace the Tories, it is pointless anyway. There is no other way, electorally speaking.
Reform have always said that leaving the ECHR is a priority and said in the beginning that the only thing they could do legally was turn back the boats, when they entered British waters. So, why did people join Reform, if they didn't agree with that stance? Anyway, without the support of all conservative-minded people, no alternative Party will get elected, so what's the point?
No, that's wrong - Nigel has definitely been softening his stance. The latest is he now just wants to hold a referendum on leaving the ECHR, he said that in parliament! That means the whole of his 5 years if he does get in would be taken up with another referendum and NOTHING will get done about the boats yet again for a decade or more, if ever. We need someone who is going to take action on Day 1. Nigel is not the man.
Reform have always said that leaving the EHCR is a priority.
Yes. Nigel now says he will hold a referendum on it,
I meant ECHR, of course!